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Sunday, January 06, 2008

Advice then Consent


Amy Goodman did an excellent show recently on Democracy Now about those 'well respected' advisers to the Presidential candidates.

Take a look a who is advising Obama, Zbigniew Brzezinski. Here's a little background on Zbigniew:
ALLAN NAIRN: Well, Obama’s top adviser is Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski gave an interview to the French press a number of years ago where he boasted about the fact that it was he who created the whole Afghan jihadi movement, the movement that produced Osama bin Laden. And he was asked by the interviewer, “Well, don’t you think this might have had some bad consequences?” And Brzezinski replied, “Absolutely not. It was definitely worth it, because we were going after the Soviets. We were getting the Soviets.” Another top Obama person—

AMY GOODMAN
: I think his comment actually was, “What’s a few riled-up Muslims?” And this, that whole idea of blowback, the idea of arming, financing, training the Mujahideen in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets, including Osama bin Laden, and then when they’re done with the Soviets, they set their sights, well, on the United States.
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We know everyone is excited about the possibility of ABB (anyone but Bush) however, please read the transcript and you may lose your appetite.

On Giuliani:
...I think he has the most poignant list of people (advisers) in terms of where you would think that his foreign policy strategy is moving, he has basically—and I said this in my article—has taken the Bush Doctrine, has just pumped it up with steroids. He is fully on board—he always has been—with the Bush Doctrine. His people behind him are. We’re talking about no-holds-barred forward with the war on terror, the war against “Islamofascism.”

7 comments:

Glynn Kalara said...

He's just 1 ad visor. I don't think Obama will follow a neo-con foreign policy if elected. He's not blind he sees the public is weary of the Imperial conquest game and wants its kids home ASAP.

Jim Sande said...

I hope you are right and so do millions, check that, billions of others.

Its hard to recall a president in the last 50 years who did not oversee the deaths of at least 100,000 people because of American interventions. Its goes with the territory.

We will see that's for sure, but I remain the skeptic.

Glynn Kalara said...

I agree. The problem now is the system is rotten too the core. Look behind Hollywood set in DC and its just 100% BIG CORP America.

Jim Sande said...

I never ever thought Bush would get elected in 2000, no matter how he did it. It was not in the radar. He was so weak as a candidate. Yet they side stepped the system.

For me, somebody like Giuliani could win. After Bush who knows anymore with rigged elections, tweaked numbers here and there to manipulate a victory. If he does win, the likelihood of bombing Iran increases. He's up to his eyeballs in neocons.

It seems to come down to the least worst guy, the lesser of two evils.

I don't know what its going to take to get the country out of world domination power syndrome.

Glynn Kalara said...

Like the Romans we've become consumed by our own sense of self-righteousness. Also, like them we have placed our military everywhere. It breeds hatred when you keep your military on other folks land decade after decade. When the troops come home the Imperial period will end. It always does sooner or later.

Jim Sande said...

Yes! And did you hear McCain? He's all for having troops in Iraq for another 100 years.

He says the American people don't really care about bases in other countries, they only care if their troops are getting killed.

Who ever heard of blowback.

I'd be willing to bet most people are clueless about American military presence in the world. How many bases, how many countries, how many advisers, CIA, weapons, communications, subs .....

Glynn Kalara said...

Your right they probably are or were until Iraq. I think the public senses that its Nat'l treasure and its future are being bled away by the enormous out lays for WAR and so called Security. I think they sense that since BV$H took power America has changed radically and in a BAD way. Something qualitative is happening out here my friend. You can feel it and see it. Americans aren't all morons. They see how the country has increasingly ended up in the hands of a few people and a few families. They see the factories they're towns and cities depended on for middle class lives and jobs disappearing to be replaced by Wal- Mart and endless Corp. strip malls and Casinos. They feel the dream slipping away for their kids and their scared ( I know I am) and their growing restive. The vote in IOWA had a revolutionary smell to it. OBAMA is becoming a symbol and a wave is building behind him. Will he surf it successfully? I don't know? Edwards was hoping to ride this Populist wave he's been stoking but he's been eclipsed by a MSM that has coldly calculated that it can destroy anyone it chooses to. They probably know that John would have been an extremely formidable candidate and so he's been made an "invisible man." Barak they feel they can control and it looks like its now going to be McCain whose going to be pushed forward ( as false savior and man on horse back) by the increasingly desperate Reptile establishment. Huckabee though isn't going to just lay down and go away after New Hampshire so once again Obama will benefit from the building Civil War inside the Reptile party.

No matter neither Huckabee nor McCain can beat Obama now. Its too late for both parties establishments to catch the wave because they are its target. The wave has been building since 2000. Its basis is 2 stolen elections an emergency ( 911) used to betray the trust of the American people, a war ( IRAQ) built on Imperial ( Corpiracy) lies and last but not least the betrayal of trust by the cowardly performance of the newly elected (2006) Democratic majority in Congress. Its all of this and more that is driving the anger and the revolutionary frustration of the public. It will only get worse as the economic climate darkens all yr. I'd also throw in a possible last minute attempt to pre-empt the election by the REPTILES and the Establishment Demos., if they see this continue to build. A terrorist attack anyone? Maybe more anthrax ? Who knows? I know this OBAMA represents something thats been slowly growing for yrs. and its not going to be easy to stop him or it once it gets rolling.