Wednesday, December 21, 2016

Chris Hayes - Why Democrats Can't Just 'Get Over It'

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Glynn Kalara said...

The arrogance on the GOP side will be their undoing IMO. The GOP always over reaches and the Dems. do just the opposite. Obama in 2008 /09 is my case in pt. so was Clinton's two terms. Dems. try to placate and compromise with the GOP and it fails over and over again and the end result of 25 yrs. of this kind of behavior is just what the GOIP lady has said the loss of everything. People more then anything wants leadership and backbone in those leaders and the Dems. never offer any. Instead, they have allowed themselves to be out maneuvered time and time again thinking somehow the GOP will suddenly be rational or come around and compromise and they NEVER do. What more proof of that then the last eight yrs. and this result! Plus, if we dial back to Bill Clinton's Presidency and look at his 8 yrs. How did that end? It ended with his Impeachment over an issue that had absolutely nothing to do with his job. In fact, they Impeached him and his poll nos. went UP! No surprise, he stood his ground on that issue, unlike every other issue he folded on and gave them what they wanted. Obama was almost a mirror image of that except the GOP upped it's game with him for the reason that it works! The ONLY reason the GOP lost in 1992 and 2008 was because in the first case Ross Perot for shadowing Trump showed just how unhappy many Americans were with the two party system and still are. So, Clinton won as a minority candidate as did Trumpf this time for IMO similar reasons. Trumpf was able to pose as a Perot type figure within the GOP and it kind of worked kind of. Had Bernie managed the same thing on the left side that would have been a really interesting election? As it was the GOP only barely managed to win like in 2000 and in both cases needed a leg up by outside forces in 2000, it was Jeb in Fla. and Scalia and the five SCOTUS GOP Justices and this time Comey and Putin. Nevertheless, they should have never been able to get as close as they did and that was because in both cases Gore and Clinton came off as what they are clueless tone deaf political party HACKS. The Dems. don't get it and until they return to being a party that stands for something more than IDENTITY politics and Wall st. they will continue to LOSE.

12:50 PM
Jim Sande said...

I'm personally very disgusted with the Dems. Politics is a spectator sport, that's how I feel. The only value in following it is getting a sense of what might or might not be coming at you. I think the country moves along the same way humanity has all along. One small group makes significant personal progress from the point of view of realizing their human potential. These people are at the top of the pyramid. The vast majority at the base of the pyramid are just trying to survive - and then there's everybody in between. I think after Trump the base gets wider and more full and the rise to the top, which is not necessarily about income, but that rise gets more obstacles. The Dems want people to progress, the GOP needs a larger base of poverty. That's how the billionaires remain billionaires.

1:20 PM
Glynn Kalara said...

Good analysis. The billionaires are our new Aristocracy without the titles for the most part. They ditched the titles because they became targets that easily identified them. Today, no titles but all the rest is the same. They have the estates, private jets, fleets of Mercedes and loads of personal servants and security. They have the absolute best of everything from women to food and beverages, transport and education. What some of them hate is having to pay taxes they feel they are above such things and they hate the average person feeling that they are superior to the common run in every way. This si what makes them a "new" Aristocracy and I suspect they will soon claim they are also genetically superior as well. Genocide carried out by these people is right up ahead.

5:03 PM

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