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Saturday, January 09, 2016

Digby On Cruz

AlterNet: This Is How Ted Cruz Wins: Why the Formerly Unthinkable Could Actually Happen - Establishment Republicans are beginning to reconcile themselves to supporting the lesser of two evils. By Heather Digby Parton
If that’s the case, the establishment is going to have a big decision to make. Do they back the hated Cruz to stop the loathsome Trump? Or do they back the detestable Trump to stop the odious Cruz? What a choice.

7 comments:

Ed said...

" And another questioner asked about the potential threat of Muslim courts issuing their own sharia-based rulings within the United States.

“Under no circumstances should sharia law be enforced anywhere in this country,” Cruz said. “We should do whatever it takes to prevent that.”

It doesn’t get any more hardcore than that."
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I don't understand. Why would the writer say that wanting to prevent sharia law is hardcore?

Jim Sande said...

Ed, the very premise of the Cruz's statement is absurd. There are no sharia law judges in the United States, this is more conservative paranoia overreach. It is a what if fear. You can spend your entire day inventing what if fears and apparently conservatives like to do that.

Ed said...



This is from today's news:
A Bristol judge has become the first in the country to be allowed to rule on sharia law cases.

District Judge Shamim Qureshi, who sits at Bristol Crown Court, is the first member of the UK judiciary to receive permission from the Judicial Office to carry out such a role, according to today's Daily Telegraph.

Sharia is a religious code for muslims which presides over matters like marriage, divorce and financial affairs.

The Telegraph reports that Judge Qureshi, who has been a judge since 2004, will "double" as a "presiding judge" at the Muslim Arbitration Tribunal (MAT).



Read more: http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Bristol-judge-UK-rule-sharia-law-cases/story-28490035-detail/story.html#ixzz3wmluoECs
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Jim Sande said...

The Bristol Post article appears to be a re-post of an article originally posted in the UK Telegraph. The Telegraph is a well known conservative UK paper, and the article does not seem to be corroborated except in the Daily Mail, which is another conservative UK outlet.

Ed, do you have a fear that American judges will be setting aside the American constitutional judiciary basis of the American court system and all of a sudden start judging cases according to sharia law?

Ed said...

The minister of the interior of Germany has just made a statement similar to Cruz. That Sharia law will not be permitted in Germany.

In a liberal country responding to community standards, Sharia law is a real possibility, seems to me. There are constitutional protections, but Muslim people favor Sharia law. If you get a concentration of Islamic people, there is going to be a tendency toward Sharia law.

Cruz's comment doesn't seem so hard-core to me.

Ed said...

What happens is that Islamic councils start to serve as the local court. Muslims go to the council to decide family issues, apostasy, blasphemy, promiscuity, women going out without an escort, women who won't wear the hijab, accept a forced marriage, etc.

Jim Sande said...

I would suspect that this is already occurring, but it's outside of the American judiciary system. There are many types of 'systems' in place in the United States mow where 'justice' is carried out outside of the American official justice tradition - the mob, gangsters like the crips etc, Chinese mafia, Russian mafia, prison populations, I think of police who act as judge, juror, and executioner as we know from recent news, we hear all the time from politicians on the extreme right about God's law being above the law of the land - think about Huckabee for example and his full out support of Kim Davis in Kentucky. How about the endless attack on women's rights, gay rights. Texas just decided that it's a good idea to carry open weapons virtually everywhere in the state including psychiatric hospitals. The larger picture is quite skewered. I actually don't know anything about sharia law, but it is hard for me to imagine it being worse than the above. However, don't let this indicate that I support it, I do not. I don;t support any of the above either, but that's our country.